Questions and Answers
November 30, 1983
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The opinion. The quotes are dangerous and not simply valueless but terrible impediments to your welfare unless you know the doctrine. You have got to know the doctrine or you won't know where it fits and I can prove it to you because Brother Brannon said if you misplace scripture you find your cow eating grass on the top of the tree. See? So remember the subject is the rapture. Have you got 16 hours?
My wife's got to do is get the briefcase upstairs and we'll start.
We'll take you to maybe page 21 out of the 42. I'm not lying to you. I've gone over already about 21 hours.
I'm not boasting. I'm just telling you. I know what I'm talking about in this subject. He says the subject is the rapture. We've got some pretty brilliant people here with good solid degrees. We have amongst us even a few PhDs. Highly educated. They know how to teach. Now, if I was a teacher, which I used to be, and I said, class, we'll take our history books this morning. Bring me the blackboard, please. And I say, what is 2 and 2? Say, Brother, then I thought it was history. Well, that's beside the point, honey. What's 2 and 2 made for? Wonderful, class. Who will now tell me who engaged in the War of 1812? Somebody says, well, that's fine. Tell me, what does H2O mean?
You get what I'm trying to say? Subject is subject. The subject is the rapture. So every single thing the prophet says has to do with the rapture, either pointedly or referring to it. But there is nothing out of line. Moses bringing Israel out of Egypt is rapture. The people scoffing in Peter is rapture. Psalm 27, 1 -5, The Lord is my light and my deliverer. Whom shall I be afraid? Just a minute now. When my enemies camp around me, I'll make the Lord my pavilion. He tells you, I'm going to tell you about the rapture at the time of the squeeze. Get ready for a hard time. And then he said, now a lot of you folk won't take my avenues. He's telling you in fact, you won't agree with me. He said, you'll stop.
The Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout. Just a minute now. You say, well, what is heaven? How do I know? I haven't been there. Well, it's not down when you tell you that. Well, you say it's symbolical. It's in the dimension. The disciples stood there one day. They saw him go up and he said, why do you gaze into heaven? This same Jesus taken up in like manner will come in the same way, come in this manner, come back in same manner. So up is evidently up, wherever up is.
He comes down. Brother Brandon said, as I read last night, comes down on earth. Now you wonder why I get fussed up because I have people all the time saying, well, I've been knowing he's here for 29 years or thousands. You've been knowing this and you've been knowing that he ain't here. That's what they said about Jesus. He said, I am the Messiah. Oh, no, he ain't here.
Now, before you and I meet him, and we have quote after quote, just the other day hearing a tape, Brother Branham categorically said, you've got to be changed to be caught up in the air. And John says, you've got to see him as he is. And that means the apocalypses and the phaneru.
You can't have a phony manifestation in the sense of a phony false prophet. And though the manifestation may be the line of the genuine gift of tongues, interpretation, prophecy, healing, and miracles, if the man is not with the word, it's out.
The Lord himself. The Lord himself. The Lord himself shall
descend. I was not the one that he appeared. I was only one near him when he did appear down the river. I'm not the one that gave the message even though I'm packing it. I'm only his voice. The voice of what? The one that appeared. Who came down? Elohim. Who was Melchizedek as the theophany? Elohim.
Who brought us to adulthood? Elohim. He's here.
All right, now he's come with a shout, the same one with the voice. Who raises the dead? God. Who takes us up? God. All those three things happen before you stand before him and enter into the wedding supper because that's spirit and God is spirit. You understand? And when that spirit that's amongst us is incarnated to us, we'll crown him king of kings and lord of lords. Now, therefore, this question, though excellent, is out of context. And the person, I don't know who you are, but you have not been reading the rapture tape correctly. You're doing what everybody else does, and I must warn you, you are picking quote against quote without knowing the doctrine. And when you do that, you'll go down. There's no room for faith. You must come to the definitive, right?
Because if you don't know what you stand for, you'll fall for anything.
Now remember, revelation leads to preeminence. Brother Branham said, when that great one comes, it cannot be a man. For he said, I was the wrong one. He said, that one must increase and I must decrease. Those are the words of John the Baptist. Who is the great one? You know and I know. There is no way to get around it. Jesus did not come to the Gentiles in the form of the body. Give me my Bible, please, there, Tony.
Give me 20 hours. I'm talking about something else.
I've got people who are listening to me.
preaching on the rapture the other day, and I thought, forget it. I said, four pages, two to go, take you 16 more hours. He said, I can't keep you here, and I won't stay here. He'd never seen me before. Brian's mother stood grinning at the door, said, I just sat for 16 hours. Don't worry about it, Brian. She'll get there somehow.
Maybe a whole bunch won't get there, but she will.
I'm going to go to Nancy Trump. Now listen. The ninth verse, He departed then to another synagogue. Behold, there is a man which had a hand with him. He asked him, saying, Is it lawful here in the Sabbath days they might accuse him? He said, Shall there be a man among you that shall have one sheep, while in the pit in the Sabbath day, will he not behold and lift it up? How much then is a man bearing a sheep? Wherefore is lawful to do well in the Sabbath days? If you're a nurse, a doctor, sure. So on, you know. Then said he to the man, Stretch forth your hand. And he stretched it forth, and it was restored whole like the other. Then the Pharisees went out and had a council against him that they might destroy him. They couldn't take it. Get rid of that bird. When Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence. The great multitude followed him. He healed them all and charged them that they should not make him known. That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet Isaiah saying. Now listen. This is the scriptural scenting in the flesh. The days of his flesh. It triggers this prophecy. So get it. This prophecy. And it has to be fulfilled. based on what you just heard. This is the background. Behold my servant, whom I have chosen, my beloved in whom my soul is well pleased. I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall show judgment to the Gentiles. So it goes from the Jews to the Gentiles. Now listen. He shall not strive nor cry, neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets hogwash.
You mean to tell me that when he kicked those birds out of the temple, he wasn't striving?
Ha! You've got to be sick. You mean he didn't lift his voice the day he lifted his voice and cried, Ho! If any man thirsts, let him come to me and drink. No, he didn't. If any man thirsts, let him come to me and drink. I'll be better. You mean in
the cross he didn't utter a loud voice?
Well, come on, read the Bible. Just a bunch of junk thrown in the garbage. Whoever wrote this book is an idiot.
Crazy.
Trying to tell me that Jesus didn't strive.
Trying to tell me he didn't lift his voice so nobody could hear him. He
did to the Jews, but not to the Gentiles. There wasn't one of us. Now listen. The bruised reed shall he not break. He didn't to the Jews. He wiped out their worship system. The smoking flask not clenched. He killed the life in it. Gone. But when we were crumbling and going down, he said, I'll hold them and bring the life back.
wonder why I raised my voice in Russia. And in his name, name, they never saw him in flesh. They have a name. And now we've got that name. Brother
Branham said, if what he did to the Jews as the true Messiah was relevant and necessary, he is obligated to do the same to the Gentiles. And here he is doing it now in the Holy Spirit. Now, you people, what are you going to do? Who is doing what and where is he doing it? Oh, Brother Dale, he's not here. You
want to fight? Stand
beside me. You've got guts? Come on. Prove me wrong.
I'll name your friends. I've
got friends, too.
I've got a man sitting right here. Same
man that lied about me lied about Roger. He's lying right now. Another man that was sitting here. He
said, leave. They'll run around the world, he said, breaking churches. The Bob said, now that you've said it, name them dates and places. Let
me tell you, that man came down to Carolinas and led churches back to Pentagon.
You say, Brother Dale, be sweet, be nice. You
people are so sweet and so nice. Anything goes. You
ought to think your question's honest. It's very, very good, very legitimate. Have all three faces taken place? By no means. I haven't seen Brother Branham yet.
We certainly don't have new bodies. I'm looking younger every day.
Where go Harry Lancaster? He ain't so old. Hey, boy, when I saw you the last time, you didn't look half as good as you look now. And here he's supposed to have had cancer in the meantime and everything else. It's a fact. I think you'd eat that cancer alive, boy, if you haven't done it already. Keep it up. I'm for you. I ain't for the devil. No, we don't have those bodies. Let me tell you something. Brother Branham said the cells are forming around that word in there. Well, what word, brother, is there? The shout. And who brings the shout? Oh, I think my organization will do.
Oh, William Branham brought it. Oh, hogwash William Branham brought it. He was only a boy.
Where was that one? Down on the river.
And I see a bunch of people, all these clever people that are so... vociferous against what we believe. I wonder about their intelligence. And I hear the man, he's got a little boy, and he's climbed the ladder, and he said, Johnny, come down. And Johnny says, I'm down. He says, yes, I notice you are.
Okay, bud.
Not your kid and mine. Get down! You're not down. All
the tripe and hogwash I'm taking. I met guys last night, Foursquare, and I'm meeting today, Foursquare. Now that my friend didn't tell you, I'm going to tell you, explain exactly what I explained last night, why I'm not having any more meetings like these. For the simple reason, it's very, very simple. Most of the time when I leave home, I'm in the realm of a certain area of thinking.
And if I leave there, I automatically begin to prepare for messages that I feel might be beneficial and helpful to somebody else because I cannot deliver you 32 hours and 40 hours of preaching in 45 minutes or two and a half hours. I can't do it. I'm not a genius. A genius would do it, but I'm not a genius. I'm very sensitive and so on. When I break my thought, it's hard to get back to it. Now, I'm not trying to copy Brother Brannon because you know me better than that. I don't look like him. I don't act like him. I don't smell like him. I don't walk like him. I don't hunt like him. There's nothing. He and I are so vastly different. When I was with him, I wouldn't even let my name appear on the billboard with him because I said, I ain't fit. I do have pretty good hands, so I carry his grips and try to do a little thing like that. I'm 64 in Tampa. He told me this. He said, Brother Vail, he said, I need men around me who will not talk to me very much, who will just let me go about my work. They'll take care of the books. They'll take care of the business because all my thoughts are of God. And he said, if anybody breaks my thinking, even my daughter or my wife, I might not get it back for one month. That's a prophet. Now, I'm not a prophet. The Lord has put me.
I break my thinking. It's very, very hard to get back. I come to a meeting. Not only is that against me, I've got to reflect myself. You know I spend myself for you. My throat can be gone, everything gone. I'll stay up and do everything I can for you. And it's usually for the people who don't give a rip. They only pester me and bug me. But I got up out there because they're genuinely, I go home tired. Because I'm working on my nerves. Now I'm not to feel sorry for them because I'm just telling you the condition. Don't worry. I'm doing just fine. Because the Lord is my strength. And I'm just letting you know these things. Thirdly, always in the meeting. There is somebody going to pray or do something else that goes right against what I am doing because they don't know what I'm doing. I'm not hitting people. I don't care about any one of you. What you do, be my guest. Do what you want. If you want to fornicate, don't include me or my wife. If you want to drink booze, be my guest. Just don't include me. I'm not a social drinker. If you want to rob a bank, go ahead. I don't have to. God is my bank. If you want to tell lies, that's wonderful. Sit down and join the Ananias Club. I don't believe in it. You can think and well do what you want or jolly well or lovely do what you want. Leave me out of it. That's fine. So what you do is your business. But I'm going to tell you, when I preach, I do not preach against people, though I can name names. I preach against what is being done as a principle according to this word. And I have seen what is going on. I have looked down the road and heard what men preach. And I am absolutely predicted by the nature of what was being said. by what was being said in churches which would lead preachers to go to other men's wives and molest them. And it has been done. And when men leave their wives or preachers and get into sin, I have seen it done. You're not a fool. I'm not a fool. When I stand up here and lower the boom as it were, and then somebody comes around and tries to pray some kind of a spirit, and right away it's the same thing we see in these quote, quote, quote, and brings a spirit in there. So I'm trying to pull some deal on you. Well, forget it. I'm not pulling any deal on anybody, and I'm not going anywhere anymore if I can help it. And Anna, a bit peevish, knew I was upset. And I'm telling you frankly why. I determined last night to be very sweet and very kind and very nice. But by the time a spirit got in here to make you people think, oh, hell, we must be very nice. And I've seen these very nice guys. They don't put the church in order. They tell lies. They defraud widows. They put everything in the book. And I'm supposed to be a dirty, evil, wicked guy doing this because I cut a knife flash because of condition. Now, if you don't want it, fine. And I'm getting out of everybody's hair. I'm not mad at anybody. But I can only take so much, and I've taken it. And God has blessed me by staying home. And I've prepared maybe to start over on the road again, because I've started meetings like this as far as I'm concerned. If somebody wants one, I'm not against coming and preaching to people, but I'm going to preach at home.
Now, I don't have to be on the road anymore. I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings if I've got something to help you with. I don't want to deprive you.
But there's only one meeting that I can handle from now on, which is a little three -day meeting like up in Columbus from my own hometown.
And I will be responsible for every single thing said and how it is said. And every single prayer and what it means. Because I'm not going to have anybody anymore, as far as I'm concerned, praying to the public or praying to God. Brother Brandon himself said, you watch a man pray. He will pray differently in his closet than he does in the pulpit. My prayers are very, very close in the closet and in the pulpit. And I'm not boasting. But I want you to know that. I don't consider I've been a footballer or abused or anything else. But look, I'm a minister. And if you want to carry my ball, carry my ball. I'm glad to let you do it. I've got no trouble there. But I want this understood. There isn't anybody going to interfere with my ministry. Period, period, period. I will answer to God because I've got you. See? I'm not going to answer to you and you for me. But that's what I said last night. It just got to the point where it wasn't you.
Now, again, I say I'm not angry. I have been disturbed because I've had just far, far too much of it. And when it comes to a place, I feel happy to be home. I'm just going to be home. I know it went over like a lead balloon, but you don't need to worry. Brother Bob understands, and Roger understands. And it wasn't going to create a bad spirit amongst anybody, because you laid on all these ales. If you think I'm thin -skinned, I am. Didn't think I'd say that, did you?
Surprise.
But if you want to follow my trail, go ahead. And if you think my sort of meanness that I've got rubs off on our people, I invite every single one of you at my expense a few of the time to come to my town. And you're going to see people. That my so -called rotten spirit has not rubbed off on. You're going to see the sweetest, gentlest people. That read this word. Hospitable and kind. And nobody understands how all the young people love me. We've got young people in our church. And the little kids are my best friends because they're the stupidest of all.
So I'll stand on my record heating up. But I want you to know this one thing. I've came to this meeting fully prepared. To the best of my ability to do things. I appreciate everybody, love everybody. As far as I know what love is. But a lot of people don't know what love is. They think. The love amongst brethren is to let the Canaanites, who distort the word of God, and worship according to folly and Satan, that I'm supposed to put my arms around and join in. Brother, sister, if I know the word of God, you are wrong and I am right. Now, if you want to do it, do it. But don't come around me. And the only safeguard I've got, I'm going to save by myself if I have to. And you say, Brother, baby, you're kind of wrong. I never said it wasn't. You just missed the point. I'm not just kind of.
Now I'm getting my bad spirit in Brother Rungan. I hit him with a four -by -four to show him I love him. No bad spirit. Brother Rungan understands very thoroughly, but just to make you know this. I got any more questions? See them up here? Give me the questions. I'll see if I can answer. I kind of got Bob sitting down there. Okay, we got another one. Okay.
All right. The resurrection of the dead is the very man that died and turned to dust the same that will rise in trouble. Brother Branham categorically said, he said, look, he said, if this book falls down,
And comes up a piece of paper. That's not resurrection.
Resurrection, man goes down and comes up. But remember, he comes up glorified. Hallelujah.
Yep, he will rise in trouble. 2 Corinthians is the fifth chapter. And the first verse there, Brother Brown explained that, is concerning our theophanies. My dear brother and my sister, don't get mixed up with the other people who are fundamentalists. They don't understand this. He said, For we know if I earth the house of this tabernacle dissolved, the building of God, a house not made with hands in heaven. That's your theophany. Now listen, the word theophany is not really true. It's your spiritual house. Theophany means feel, which is God's scenario to prove and show it is God. Manifest. But it does in a way. It's the best word Brother Brannon can use. I concur with him heartily. You know what it is. It is something that God himself.
has eternally had there, which is like that logo. And you stepped into it. You do not leave here, float them and jet them. He said, I used to think, he said, Ned, like a little cloud floating around without hands, and say, hi, brother Ned, another cloud floating by. And he said, oh, you don't know what this vision did. And he realized he would step into a body, that theophonic body, let's call it that, and he'd hug and just embrace and have a wonderful time with no ulterior feelings or motives. All love and beautiful honey right there, see? Beautiful. Now, it also says here. What was that question?
Oh, yeah. I wasn't in the question. I want to put this before you. This is very strange. I don't understand it. I thought myself when the dead ones with their theophanies come back here and pick up their frames that are out of dust. Remolded. Brother Brandon said God will create again, not by sex, but by creation from the cosmic rays and the ashes and the petroleum and so on, the calcium. He will form again. Create that body. It'll be you. It'll look like you. Absolutely. It looks like you. See, often it will. But it's going to be brand new. It'll never perish. All right, now listen. When those people come down here to pick up your body, the strange thing, and I don't question it because I believe the prophet, we do not pick up ours. We rise and it picks us up. No problem. I just had to rejuggle my thoughts on that one. But no problem. The prophet said it. Hallelujah. Any more questions?
Oh, where did the prophet say that Cain offered first fruits in the message? Well, let's find out.
You get out of the word here.
Because you see, a first fruit offering is the fruit of the ground.
Cain, he offered unto God.
Okay, let's not turn it back here. Brought us the time, came, brought us the fruit of the ground, an offering unto the Lord. That's what it was. It had to be. Because you see, there's got to be blood before there's a first fruit offering. Now here's what God said. If thou doest well, shouldst thou not be offended. That's not the Septuagint saying, thou hast offered right. But since thou hast not rightly divided, hast thou not sinned? The sin offering lieth at the door, and the animal is there waiting for you to do it. This man would not offer blood, but what he did was according to Scripture, but not in line with Scripture. And this is proven by the Hebrews 11. Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain. Now, if Abel's sacrifice was more excellent, then Cain's was excellent. And so, therefore, you know as well as I do, it is absolutely a fruit offering. It's the first fruit offering. And he was saying, I can make the resurrection without the blood. I'm going to get there and be immortal. And it wouldn't work. As Brother Branham said, this proves certainty because you know how birth is connected to blood and so on. I can't put you in any one specific place where Brother Branham identified it as first fruit at this particular time. I wouldn't be able to give you a quote on page 22, Pharaoh and his rapture. The prophet said the seven church age typing with Enoch. That's exactly right. In other words, that's when the rapture takes place, the seven church age. Now, there's no doubt we're in the seventh church age. We all know that. Do you, brethren, believe that we're still in this dispensation? Well, certainly we're in the seventh church age. In the particular sense that we haven't got out of here, and it's the seventh church age that these things are happening. Remember, we're under seal. Now, as far as dispensations are concerned, you don't get them mixed up with seventh church ages. Because dispensation, Brother Branham was a dispensationist in the understanding of how God was manifesting himself. He was a dispensation as far as the pillar of fire was turned, which was Father. And then when the same thing became flesh, it was the Son, and the Father and Son were together. Then when the Holy Ghost came back, it was a dispensation of the Son of God. And now again we find a short dispensation of the Son of Man. Now there's supposed to be a dispensation of the Son of David coming on. It's a manifestation of Almighty God. Don't get it mixed up with these other things. Your terminology seems to indicate there's some... misunderstanding so that the interplay in words confuses you. Now, it's just like somebody said, well, is the blood on the mercy seat? I said, just a minute. If the blood is on the mercy seat, what does it matter if you're not in the light? And if the blood is off the mercy seat and you are in the light, it proves that you're already in because you wouldn't be. How could you possibly get the Holy Ghost out of the blood anyway? So, do you believe we're still in this dispensation? Well, now you see, you say dispensation in church age.
Where do you find that they're interchangeable? Where does it say dispensation one, dispensation two, dispensation three, four, five, six, and seven? It says church ages.
So you see, your terminology is completely wrong. You're going to have to rethink your question here. The mighty angel in Revelation 10, one for the earth and one on sea. Excuse me, 72. Do you believe this happened already to the Jews?
No, not to the Jews. Now, I know there's a quote concerning that somewhere in one of the older tapes concerning Brother Branham mentioning that. And so unless I went back to that, I couldn't tell you that. But Brother Branham categorically says this, that that angel that came down was on earth when the seventh church age messenger was down there and he indicated himself. So therefore, if there is going to be a dual or a double application to this, then that is fine by me, to the Jews or not to the Jews. That doesn't bother me one little bit. The point is, is he down here for me? See, the mighty one that came down. So he did tell us that that one would be unearthed at the time of the Gentiles. And he said that was the time the seventh seal would open because he said the seventh seal was Revelation 10, 1 to 7. And categorically it had to do with the Gentile prophets. Now if this transfers, and no doubt it could transfer because I'm not familiar anymore with that obscure quote because there is one there, but I can't remember and I wouldn't have the least idea unless it got to the context of it. If this is the same one that is remaining here for the Jews, it could be possible. But remember, as far as I understand Scripture, this one that brings a shout and the voice and the trumpet goes up with it. And then Brother Branham says he appears to the Jews in a symbol.
And also the fact is he shows himself to his brethren and they say, well, it looks like, but I sure hope it's not.
And they get scared. When he said, don't worry about that, he said this was necessary. So I wouldn't know where your question ran in continuity. I wish I could help you more, but there's... But there's nothing I could say about that until I'd referred to the old, there is, I believe, an obscure passage there. It's just like Brother Branham made a double reference to over there in Revelation, I believe it's the seventh chapter. And many people get all very unhappy because the church aid book says one thing, and they find Brother Branham says another thing, but I got the actual places where he said the other. But the church aid book shows it says identically. You say, could it be a compound meaning? That's very fine, I don't know. I don't know. I can't tell you, and I've got to be honest, because I simply don't know. Right at this point, all I know is that my understanding of Scripture, and I say, you do what you want, because it's perfectly fine by me. I'm not here to argue with anybody, to be an authority. My understanding of Scripture is that that one that came down, positively came with a shout, he appeared on the river. He's coming more and more to the church, identifying himself, gaining favor with the people. And he did gain favor with the people until he revealed who he was. And the minute he said who he was, Goodbye. Jesus gained favor because he did the miracles. He said, for what miracles do you stone me? Not for a good work at all. In fact, we like the fact that you can take those woes and fissures. In fact, if we could whip you into shape and you could whip us into shape, we could whip the Romans together. Well, why don't you like me? Well, because of what you said.
Because of who you said you are. And we know you're not. Because he's not here. We said you're looking at him. Oh, no. No, you're not here. Now, Brother Branham said he's brought in the plain view. He said, the sword in the hand of a skillful swordsman ripped the absolutely asunder, the curtain that held the holy of holies of the creeds and the dogmas were slashed down and we beheld him in full view. He's in plain view, brother. And people say, well, you're not here. Well, you see, brother, I know what you're doing. You're using every argument in the book and out of the book for your point of view. What do you think I do?
I'm not with the rest of the liars. I'm hitting hard. You bet I'm hitting hard. But I'm not lying. I'm not telling you lies up here. I'm not lying out there in the street either. Come and check my record. I challenge you. I invite you.
I've got nothing to hide except my evil deeds. Just kidding, of course. I don't want to wake you up. Okay. You're taking a lot of time as it is. It's getting on to four o 'clock. Well,
because we're in the seventh church age, it wouldn't even happen in the sixth church age. Under the sixth church age, that would be not a part of the age specifically, but would be under that particular time, like it's under the seventh year. You've got seven ages, but the seven seals do not run concurrently with the seven seals. You've got four seals that run the length of the seven church ages, according to Brother Branham on the Gentiles, right? Well, within that, when he went back, he became Son of God. But people didn't realize that would change where he would manifest himself as Son of Man. And the Son of Man was revealed. But that did not take away the element of the fact of the Son of God, the baptism with the Holy Ghost. Because what he said was, he said, I am not he, the pillar of fire is not he. He's talking to the Son of Man. He said this is the form of the Holy Spirit. Nobody can see the Holy Spirit. We saw ministry. When the Son of Man was revealed, he was revealed by human flesh and inhuman flesh. And we knew it was he because of the deeds that he did. The same one risen. And we can't see a pillar of fire. But that's happened in this hour of the Seventh Church Age. And I don't know that the... I would not say that the Seventh Church Age is over. I wouldn't say that.
And then again... or the seven church ages end, you have the fullness of the Gentiles. And we're not yet to the fullness of Gentiles as far as we know. And after the fullness, there comes the end of the times of the Gentiles, when Jerusalem is fully restored. Of course, you could put that now, I think most scholars do, the historical and geographical context there, that Jerusalem is no longer trodden down to the Gentiles. So the two of them run pretty well concurrently there. You have all these changes. But in my understanding, when Brother Brown spoke of dispensation, dispensation of the Father, dispensation of the Son, so this would be dispensation of the Son of Man. The only thing I can see in it. But it is under our period church ages.
To me, it certainly did, because this is the seventh church age. Now, there are those who take exception to this thought. And that is, they say, the seventh church age is Laodicea, and I am not in Laodicea, so therefore I'm not in the seventh church age. Well, to me, that's merely the bandying of words. I see that wouldn't either condemn me or exalt me or do anything as far as I'm concerned because I recognize the hour in which I live, which is the hour of his visitation and what he is doing under that seventh seal which came during the seventh church age to bring us out in liberty. Again, we're looking at days. Brother Brand said the seventh day we're going to an eighth. Some people say we're in the eighth day. I cannot buy that. I believe we're being ushered into it. But I would say concerning those various terms that to me at this point it's more a matter almost a semantic, more than just a matter of, yet it's not just that. It's a matter of truth, a showing forth what God is to his people. Like, for instance, at this particular time, that God has revealed himself as the Son of Man, and the baptism with the Holy Ghost is a true revelation, and that baptism with the Holy Ghost from that point on says amen to every word that the prophet has brought, then positively, you can see that we are into that. particular dispensation of the Son of Man, but we cannot forget the fact that Brother Branham laid hands on people and said they were filled with the Holy Ghost.
You know what I mean? See, that's again, you've got the Son of God. He came back as Son of God. So I'm not prone to take these words and make a fine point of them, as though my doctrine existed for that. I recognize the Son of Man. I recognize the days of the Son of Man. I recognize the fact... Where did Brother Brandon get that? I'll tell you where he got this over here about the Son of God. He said, Concerning the Son of Jesus Christ our Lord, which is made of the seed of David according to the flesh, and declared to be the Son of God of power according to the Spirit of the Holy Spirit by the resurrection from the dead. And it tells you right there then the same Spirit that was in him when he was in flesh as the Son of David, the Son of David had mercy on him. He came back to the Gentiles as the Son of God. And we know him as the Son of God. But the days of the Son of Man repeat. During what time? During the days of the Son of God. That doesn't make any problem. Because Brother Bannon said, here's the prophet, here's the pillar of fire, and now this son of man is here for him.
To me, there's no problem there because we're just looking at it.
Oh, I think that was Brother Evans or something, the man that owned the used car lot.
Brother Bannon mentioned his brother that was in the business of used cars and he got to know him and he began talking with him. After being in many meetings, the brother began saying to him, Brother Branham, I'm confused as to whether I'm born again or what I have anyway. Well, he said, why don't you talk about it and tell me your story? Well, he said, my wife used to go to meetings and I let her go and it was nice that she went and I didn't mind at all. But I had my drinking and my smoking in my ways and it was fine for me, for her. She didn't bother me and I didn't bother her because I let her go ahead. She didn't have the influence on me at that time, so we just let her go on. Well, he said he picked up a book one time, began reading in the book, as I recall, and then he began going to meetings and looking around. He went to Pentecostal meetings. He went to Baptist meetings and this, that meetings and other things. And I believe it was during the time he was reading the book that suddenly he found that, well, who needed to smoke? Who needed to curse? Who needed anything? And he found that he was quite a different person. And so he heard about the Pentecost, the baptism of the Holy Ghost. He began to revive again. He went around looking, but he said, they told me to do this. He said, it didn't satisfy him. He said, they said this and that didn't satisfy him. He said, this and that didn't satisfy him. He said, I just couldn't find any satisfaction. And he said, I'm still unsatisfied. He said, I really don't know. What is it all about? Brother Van said, well, tell me. He said, when was that time that you talk about that you were different? And he told him the time that he'd give. He said, that's the time that you receive the Holy Ghost. Now, here's a man that evidently didn't know what had happened, but it fell in the category that a woman cannot have a baby without knowing unless she's comatose or in a comatose state or under some kind of a drug. But the thing is this, he said, you know that, even though there isn't the sensations and all those various formulas that people go through. And so now here was a man who was believing in Brother Branham, who saw the truth in the message, and he was wondering, did I ever receive the Holy Ghost? Is there anything I can look back on? And Brother Branham took him back to that time that would be least relevant in his mind as to indicate that really he had received something of this dynamic proportion, because all he could remember was having, as I believe the story is right or what I recall, that he read the book for some tract, and after that, Well, where was the smoking gone? Where was the drinking gone? Where was the desire gone? Where was it? And Brother Ben said, that was that time. Now, there's no doubt the prophet could not have said that had the man not been fully inclined toward the word of God. If you've got the Holy Ghost, he said, how in the world can you be full of the Holy Ghost and not say amen to every word? And they'd say, well, that wasn't William Branham. That's just you. Well, it wasn't William Branham. See, this is the thing that people, it's hard to understand, but he said, when you see God descend from the heavens, stand before groups of men and declare himself as ever he did. And this Bible opened before me, the word of God. And people then wonder, they don't even begin to think and say, well, as ever he did? How did God set up a pattern in his word that we are conversing with that makes us to know that God has stood before groups of men and expressed himself, declared himself? Say now, when was that anyway? Mount Sinai? That could have been it. No. He didn't talk to anybody except Moses.
Well, let's see. Did he appear to all the Jews and talk in the days of Isaiah? No. No. No. He talked to Isaiah. Well, what about the time of Jeremiah?
Did God appear before groups of men? Not that I recall, they say. But he did. When Moses was there, God appeared. And declared himself.
You see, I'm getting close to idolatry. That's what the Jews did. This man makes himself God. Kill him. Idolatry.
They sure would like to kill Brother Brandon. So when you see God descend from the heaven, stand before a group of men and declare himself as ever he did, that tells you that's Hebrews 1 .1 .2. God in various ways and in different manners gave a portion of the word to the people as God was in the prophets. So there you have it. Okay. Lord bless you. I trust the unexplainable has been explained.
The unknown is now made known. Should we close? That's right.
Let me say this, and I mean it from the depth of my heart. And then I still say it.
Brother Vail reminds me more of the Apostle Paul.
And I've studied a lot in the life of the Apostle Paul by the standard. works on him, Corny Baronhausen. You really get a picture of his personality why he's even got the hook nose Paul had.
He's small like Paul. Paul was a prophet's interpreter. You know that?
Do you know that? Paul interpreted Jesus the prophet.
And I'm not a personality worshiper. Never have been. This is a chosen vessel. And
a lot of preparation he's gone through a whole lot. Now, I don't know about what he says. He's not going to hold meetings this way and that and the other. That's all right. We all feel that way. Last night, I should have had another person come up and pray immediately. I didn't know that was going to happen that way because that wasn't a prayer. Now, don't let that go over your head, you
see. But I believe in ignorance. A man did what he did. But maybe not so much ignorance either. But anyway, maybe the Lord told him to say that so that you would understand what the enemy's like. You know, the enemy can use good people. You know, Peter said something once, and Jesus said, Satan, depart from me. It came out of the mouth of Peter. Isn't that right? So you've got to look at it in a wise sense, but it was still the enemy. Now that should be an education for us. That should be an eye -opener for us. You see? And Peter was a good man, in a way, except in that moment. He was the voice of the devil. You understand? And we can be the same thing. We're not careful. We have to always be careful to walk and tread very softly. I guess the main thing to do is keep our mouths shut and our ears open. And we have to be very, very careful.
Brother Brown, come here and dismiss us, will you?
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